[Feedback] Feedback and Comments for Wealthpoint Rules and Guidelines

[JoeDOM_Admin]

This is the place for you to discuss about our forum Wealthpoint Rules here:

http://www.friendlytraders.com/forum/2361_75/contributions-wealthpoints-rules-guidelines.html

[__DBZ__]

Joe thanks a lot for your great work and the great forum you created.
Keep it rocking!!
Gracias!

[Christos]

Seems fair. Any ETA on getting caught up? I have a data submission awaiting approval from 5/22.

[aldebaran]

Originally Posted by JoeDOM_Admin

JoeDOM, is it fairly? Let's think.

Member A contributes sub version of software A which costs for example 18000 Wealth. He gets minimum 27000 Wealth in reward (because 18000 is less than 20000 and this software is not expensive in your classification)

Member B contributes sub version of software B which costs for example 50000 Wealth. He gets 12500 Wealth in reward (because 50000 is greater than 20000 and this software is expensive in your classification).

So member A gets in more than two times less than member B although he contributes more expensive and valuable software!

So what we can do? I offer to change your rules in such way:

Sub versions Awarding Rules

If you upload a newer version of a resource already available in our forum, you will not be awarded under the 1.5X-4.0X rule. This rule is implemented in order to avoid having members upload multiple sub versions of an expensive(20000+) resource and claiming high multiples of it constantly. We consider an expensive resource to any posted resource costing 20000 Wealthpoints or more.
Instead, the uploader of a higher sub version will be awarded 1/4 (one fourth) of the cost assigned to that resource BUT NOT LESS THAN 30000 WEALTH (1.5 TIMES OF 20000 THRESHOLD).

So my offer is to set minimum amount of reward for valuable contributions to avoid situation when cheaper contribution gives to contributer more reward than more expensive contribution.

[JoeDOM_Admin]

I like to keep it simple. Previous yosewe(r.i.p.) pointing system was so complex that it needed programming to calculate it . And in the heat of moving posts and checking post formatting and all that, those rules really made me confuse myself even more. In paper it looked beautiful, but in practice, it was a nightmare.

Ok, I agree with you, Aldebaran, that my current threshold of 20000 W$ will make it unfair under certain special circumstances. And it is very true. I did not think nor considered addressing about those special cases you exposed in your reply post.
Unfortunately your proposition of implementing the 30000 W$ threshold still imposes even more complexity to our contribution system.
See, if we start to make more and more special cases and "exceptions" our awarding/cost setting rules will start to be shapeless and confusing as hell.

My proposition to fix this issue is this:

Instead of 1/4 of the cost with a 20000 W$ threshold, I plan to do the following:

1/3 of the cost assigned for sub versions without any threashold at all ! ! ! !

So if you upload a resource considered a sub version, even if it has a cost set to 500W$, you will get 1/3 of 500W$ which is 167W$.
Keep in mind the following:
The higher the sub version, they higher you can earn ! !
As an example, take a look at the three versions of Owndata we currently got in our forum. Each higher version has different costs. The newer the version, the more cost it has(obviously). So if you achieve to upload a higher sub version, you will undoubtely get to earn higher W$ under the 1/3 rule. No need to second guess and remember silly 20000 thresholds anymore ! ! !

[aldebaran]

Originally Posted by JoeDOM_Admin

OK, but don't you think that in such case it is fairly to let those who download previous version of software to download newer sub version also for 1/3 of its cost? If it's impossible to do in common way via forum maybe it can be done via private support section with help of Admin?

[JoeDOM_Admin]

Aldebaran:

It would be a management nightmare.
I will have to keep track of what every member has downloaded in the past and "manually" make the 1/3 cut, which is cumbersome.

Sure, it can be done, but not for the moment, when I got the opportunity to develop the forum software, it can be considered a possibility.

[mojoko]

hello,

i am new here. as far as i can see, there is no other way than sharing new softwares with working crack/patch or similar.

so, what can newbie like me do something to earn points besides the predeterminded rules in the other thread?

thanks.

[JoeDOM_Admin]

We are working on a solution but there is no "real" solution for members who really have nothing to contribute.
And worse is that every day that passes the slope is tilting even more out of favor from the newcomer with nothing to share.
Even I cannot escape this black hole of swirling content that increases its suction energy with every contributon it absorbs.
It is like escaping from the laws of physics on earth. Just impossible.
That is why I need to brainstorm in order to find a clever way to redirect this suction energy from ever increasing resources and help the newcomer.
Also, the problem I have is that I need to test/upload/fix posts/answer support, etc, etc the whole day and that leaves me with very little time to brainstorm or further develop the forum technology.